Whats your take on it? Traveling without your husband and encouraging women to submit to their husbands and follow their husbands leadership in the home! By the way, both Joyce Meyer & Christine Caine honor God, His call on their redeemed lives and they honor their husbands as well. He takes the trials and tests and turns them into a testimony.', and 'Nothing about my birth - or yours - was random or accidental. Loved the circle maker. And it sure wasnt to sit around and be powerless (or maybe bake a cake or two for the church) until a man told me what to do. 40.2K followers. I have seen and experienced the damage of hearsay, twisted words, misunderstood contexts, and the like, and I also am an avid believer that the Lord will hold me accountable for every word I say (or type), including how those words impact the reputation, feelings, faith, and guidance of others. Jehovahs Witnesses Dont trust your heart, trust God. Subscribe to TCW's free email newsletter at this link for weekly updates and chances to win free books and music downloads. (Romans 16:17-18) Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. This is strictly how a person who is not qualified, is handling scripture. I do not talk about ministries I have not had any sort of direct contact with. We need to be careful not to underestimate how important our response to correction is. Paul says: one thing I do: forgetting what is behind and straining towards what is ahead, I press on (Philippians 3:13-14). 3For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. We are to rebuke openly false teaching. Like back in SUFTT? We extend that respect to all First Nations peoples. Dont mistake love of the world for the true love of God, His Son, and His scripture. 32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: 33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? We must allow or error otherwise we cannot trully attend any church because as soon as we walk in there is sin and error. Yes, I do know you to say such a thing. I and pray that evil will not flourish. There are soooo many books that have women leaders in them. You can disagree with me, but I encourage you to remain teachable to whoever God puts in your pathit can be amazing what He can teach you through the most unlikely of sources. I know there is a BIBLICAL way of calling someone out for false teaching, and anonymously posting on a site behind their backs is NOT IT. Believers are to have nothing to do with anyone who claims authority as a teacher but who is not sound concerning the doctrine of Christ. When I tore my ACL while downhill skiing, the pain was excruciating, but nothing like the physical therapy afterward. We cant judge the hearts of the alleged converted, but we absolutely can judge the teaching. When you are calling names, questioning the faith of, or making assumptions about a person, you ARE making it personal. THE PANDEMIC HAS CAUSED PEOPLE TO DRIFT FROM CHURCHITS TIME FOR US ALL TO CHECK OUR MARKERS. In this post, we will consider what pastors and congregations are supposed to do in response to such persons who emerge in their midst. Stay blessed. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. There is an honesty about Christine Caine that is rare in high-profile leaders. I just remember holding that toilet brush and doing it as unto God with a passion. All thats done here is to warn people!E of false teachers, false theology and false biblical practices, how is that in anyway being Pharisee? God speaks to male and femalehe does not discriminate. The people who write the articles on this site may share some truth, but they definitely twist scripture more than the false prophets they write about, as well as make loads of accusations with no documentation. I can understand why so many people hate Christians. You dont personally know me and have gone on and on about what YOU think I do or do not know. I understand a loving nudge in the right direction from a truly loving soul whos purpose in life is to point people towards heaven. When I brought my first Bible home, my family acted like, Who do you think you are reading this? Hear our latest radio programs including GPS, Hour of Decision Online, and Billy Graham Minute. What Not to Say to Single Women in the Church. ~ Christine Caine. Brother, youre a legalistic joke and I assure you whatever church youre a part of isnt thriving and reaching this generation. Yoga. I lived most of my life with that thought. He wasn't helping me. Gods job is to do the miracles, our job is to believe. Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered over to Satan, so that they may be taught not to blaspheme (1 Tim. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. Those who persist in false teaching present grave spiritual danger and must be opposed. If you have won souls to Christ this way, or have gotten any of the people you attack to repent, then AMEN. People like you? Please be specific. I have not said an iota about them, because I have not had any sort of personal interaction with them. A Berean? God is relational but He is also Almighty God, Yahweh and there are no other gods before Him. People tried to silence me, but God was faithful, Ravi Zacharias sins of sexual abuse went undetected for years. This silly arguement is what pro-female pastors (Christine Caine, Joyce Meyer, etc.) bringing swift destruction upon themselves their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep (2 Pet. I had to really get to a place where I felt Id made good headway in living a shame-free life, to be able to put the stuff that Ive learnt in writing. In my last post, we looked at six characteristics that help us to identify false teachers. The couple also run a network of churches in Europe, as well as Propel Women, a ministry that aims to equip women to fulfil their God-given purpose. Morning Devotions, 5 Things About Jesus That Matter to You Part 3 A Time With God Audio Devotion, ChatGPT and the Rise of Technology: Wisdom in Using AI, Love is the Greatest Political Idea, says Indian Author & Philosopher, 5 Things About Jesus That Matter to You Part 2 A Time With God Audio Devotion. Hope 103.2 will be ready to celebrate what's good in society and culture. In the meantime, I pray for truth to pervade where lies now take hold. 4So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.. So here I am! God is bigger than that. All you have to do to drift is nothing. I pray against the pride that is here. Im the daughter of Greek immigrants. But then I met Jesus, I was 8 years old when God gave me a prophetic vision. The apostle Paul says that willingness to engage this kind of controversy is a qualification for office: He must hold fast the faithful word which is in accordance with the teaching, that he may be able both to exhort in sound doctrine and to refute those who contradict (Titus 1:9). 2:11, 14). We are commanded to come out from her. We pay our respects to Elders past, present and future. Listen in as Christine Caine opens up about her past and how God can use you no matter what's been done to you or what you've done to others. Amen (I Timothy 6:20-21). I write this as a Baptist, and so I would argue that the excommunication is a congregational responsibility and not something that pastors can impose alone (e.g., 1 Cor. You are talking about them behind their backs. If u cant speak life. God uses all of us, however he sees fit. You cant add or take away from the gospel and thats what they are doing. Youre not speaking as a Christian should. If they persist despite the warnings and either dont have a husband to oversee them, have no proper oversight from a husband who has abdicated his duty, or who just are or are married to a discernment klutz, then various scriptures say either to admonish them strongly a third time and/or to break fellowship. Such a person is not to be given religious recognition of any kind, because to do so would mean that the believers would then share in his evil deeds. It sounds exhausting and it would be if I was striving but its a response to the invitation of God. If a quarrelsome person is left to himself he will soon have nobody with which to quarrel. She is an ordained pastor and functions in that capacity. What part are you using to back up your claim to defend Cain and Meyer? Its been shown over and over how these two (Caine, Meyer) twist scripture, and theyre supporters keep buying it. So I grew up with a strong God-consciousness, but not a personal relationship with Christ. I am WAY too busy aligning my own life with the scriptures to spend too much time pointing fingers at others. The way the currents have shifted in society, no matter who you are whether you have a blue check mark [on your social media] like me, or whether youve got five followers is irrelevant. The key issue is how we respond to correction. Woman came from man. When I became engaged to my husband, Nick, I did a round of what I would call deep, intensive counseling. Continue reading. If the message they are preaching are not the message of the True Gospel of Jesus Christ, they are not preaching truth and therefore are not bound by the rules for taking aside someone in the church. Communications advisor to the Export systems department. I genuinely thought this was a joke HAHAHA. Sanctify them through Thy Truth: Thy Word is Truth. John 17:17 Anything contrary to Gods Word produces tares. Id like to know. I have a friend I have started sharing my faith and studying the Bible with (GASP, and Im a WOMAN! 6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. It is difficult not to be inspired by her passion for Jesus and her unwavering belief that God is still in the business of doing what the Bible says hes always done. A word of advice to those erroneously holding unto these beliefs, read your Bibles, put down your favorite idol for a second and read what Jesus said about: False teachers, false brethren, faulty theology, and the biggest of them all the coming judgement on these purveyors of lies and on the whole world itself. Spoke at Bethel Church, delivered there a false testimony and strongly unbiblical teachings. But battles never come at convenient times, do they? If they are not preaching salvation as Jesus spoke it, run!! (?) My birth certificate doesnt have a name on it. Its sad and disappointing that this site calls for us to throw the baby out with the bathwater and ignore Christines call for us to keep winning souls for Christ. So I grew up feeling a lot of rejection, shame, insecurity, fear, and anger. It amazes me all her supporters can only base their drive-by comments on dont judge, presupposing what God does while ignoring His written word, or the Love syndrome, we all need love, we must love, God is only about love, Jesus is only about love, youre not loving if youre judging. These clowns do not preach the word of God. Contact Us. I wanted to be open: drifting isnt always Im leaving Christianity, Im going to start doing sex, drugs, rock and roll Drifting can be as subtle as taking your foot off the gas, going: Its too costly to keep pressing on, Im just going to slow down a bit. We need to examine our hearts. This year, people have had to cope with things they never thought theyd have to cope with. And the pain of recovery will be greater than the pain of the injury, but if you do it, your leg will be stronger than your other leg for the rest of. At the time, she was set to take part in speaking engagements, go on a worship tour with Kari Job and release her new book, Unstoppable. Harmoniously, they labored together in the service of the church. And the whole -you are tearing down His Kingdom bit just love till it hurts ,just love , love, love,anything and everything cuz its all about love is pure and utter b.s. What should our motive be in bringing confrontation? 2:1) Somehow I doubt theres much of that going on. The mum-of-two, who is now 50 years old, said it took 50 years to write Unashamed, because she has spent many years overcoming her shame and being confident in her own skin. The hogwash that comes out of Caines mouth, tells me so. (I mean, isnt that the point?) It sounds broad, but you think of the kid left in a hospital it would be just like God to take an unnamed, unwanted, abused, adopted girl and go: Im going to redeem all of those fragments of your broken past and put them together as a tapestry of my grace. Your past will do one of two things: either shame, guilt, regret, condemnation will cause you to shut down, or God can take those fragments and give someone a future. I have felt my fervor for studying and deepening my walk with the Lord be VERY attacked by your making a similar comment. For a good laugh I guess. Rising from the Ashes of Abuse: Christine Caine & Jennifer Clinger - Jesus Calling Podcast Episode 68. "I had a thyroidectomy last Tuesday. what did Paul call those that did trouble him in Galatians 5:12? Public confrontation ought to be animated by a desire to protect Gods people from being led astray by teaching that is spiritually and morally harmful to them (Acts 20:28). This episode will help you overcome feeling disqualified because of your past so you can walk in freedom as you fulfill the purpose God has for your life. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. Christine Caine admits her spiritual roots were sprung from the bad fruit of heretics. It was my own walk with Christ, studying of the scripture, and life-changing experiences that helped me grow and see otherwise. Discernment The reason is obvious. 12 How think ye? Lets focus on the Love of Jesus and love love lovebe Jesus out thereChristine Cain, Joyce and all those you judge..they love the Lordperhaps u should look inward friend. But we are supposed to believe be brave enough to call it to their faces? You are more careful not to offend humans than you are to offend God. So heres the question we have to ask and answer anytime we are refuting error. I was at one of her events this weekend and I quote from her message if you are called to be married, you are called to follow. 4:00PM EDT 9/12/2014 Christine Caine. So many things we call biblical are just cultural. We all ask for the spirit of discernment & as we grow in spirit, will soon know who is who or the Holy Spirit reveals it to us without you being judgemental to a fellow human being. Believe it or not, I used to believe very similar to youthat as a woman I had no power to influence other men, that I was to simply shut up and do as I am told by the men around me, etc. Hearsay? There is some speculation regarding Lydias social status. "Of course the enemy wanted to silence my voice," said Caine. Spend more time building your character than trying to build your platform. Im an unwanted kid, second generation migrant, marginalised. I remember cleaning the toilets as well. A local Walk For Freedom host who saw a problem and became dedicated to finding a solution. Christians are commanded not to worry, as we know our God is bigger than any situation, we are to lay at His feet ALL of our cares, He provides. Warn them, lovingly. A conversation about her marriage to pastor Francis Chan and their urban ministry in San Francisco. You sit there and judge others who are you to judge. Apr 13, 2013 - Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. But perhaps Christine Caines best known and most worrisome bond is with false (Word of Faith) teacher Joyce Meyer. We sit in our I see names of preaches being thrown around without regard, I see many arguments going back and forth trying to outdo one another with self-knowledge and a a tonne of Bible bashing. I listen to Christine Caines messages and Ive never heard anything bad. When we share our story through the lens of God's work in our lives, our experience becomes a testimony to who He is. They preach the word. Pastrix Christine Caine from hereticalHillsong ChurchAustraliais a teacher that the serious Christian should steer clear of. Weve never been in competition with each other. A lot of us have drifted from that call of discipleship. International preacher, speaker and author Christine Caine recently revealed that she had been diagnosed with cancer. Perhaps this is where we are talking past each other. I needed faith and friends surrounding me who were full of faith. Written by Christian Movies. I only speak on my personal experiences, what I have read, what I have heard, what I have been taught, and what interactions I participated in. Listen in as Christine Caine joins Praise to speak about the true character of God. Sorry, Christine Caine nor Joyce Meters is Esther, do what Esther did nor follow what is commanded: 13 And Mordecai told them to answer Esther: Do not think in your heart that you will escape in the kings palace any more than all the other Jews. If youre honest enough with yourself and do a bit of research in to Caine, Beth Moore and the myriads of so called teachers, youll find their doctrines of demons does not square with scripture! Galatians 1:8-9. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. Why, because God has called them to that profession. Believers, on the other hand, must continue abiding in the doctrine of Christ to have fellowship with the Father and the Son. The baskets kept filling up no matter how much food they distributed. Mans heart is deceitful, and beyond cure..Jeremiah 17:9. evil men and impostors deceiving and being deceived (2 Ti m. 3:13) I think a lot of my past had really caught up with me, and so I was very sceptical about the love and the grace of God. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.. I am so glad that Christ is my example of the Word in flesh not articles like this and authors of them. I think Im living proof that you can start bad and finish good. Christine Caine is an Australian born, Greek blooded, lover of Jesus, a sought-after international speaker, author and activist. Have the fruit of the Spirit in your marriage. Anti-trafficking work, church planting, womens networks, speaking, writing is there any part of life that you dont want to tackle? God knows who the wolves are. 35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses. Read more quotes from Christine Caine. . Kenyon (18671948) is usually given credit as the originator of Word of Faith teaching. The weapon of the enemy are the wolves standing behind pulpits teaching lies and heresies to the sheep, who would rather follow them than Jesus Christ. Create Yours. Blessings. And on my not-so-great days I can spiral into a pit like anyone else. Discover how to triumph through the blood of the lamb and the word of your testimony. Study of the two commandments Jesus left us would be better use of your time. We strive to bring His word to people! We cannot throw the baby out with the bath water, the fish out with the bones. It was this last experience, she says, which prompted the writing of her latest bookHow Did I Get Here? I hope your eyes will be opened to see the crass apostasy infecting church. GD is calling out His bride from dead Churchianity. I am not at that point where I would feel confident before Him doing the same, so I only ask that you understand. Word of Faith That is the only thing God really asks of us. I pray those with ears to hear will find their way out. Actually there are two churches, THE BRIDE and the HARLOT CHURCH. Paul has nothing remotely nice to say about those to purport to speak for Christ. 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