25:20; 37:9; I Kin. Another fellow who posted earlier was a bit upset over what I was saying because he thought I was soon going to ask for money by selling something. Name the immediate political succeosor's to George Bush and Tony Blair. no again, since a well trained person can beat a voice stress analysis by using self hypnosis or having someone hypnotize them prior to recording. This can be observed by the "twins paradox". I want to see that something so fantastic and so outlandish that it is science fiction right now, come true.Those are MY motives for being here, chatting about this.Granted, there are deeper, more scientific discussions on other boards and elsewhere in the scientific community, but they are "deeper" than I wish to delve. I don't understand all the personal attacks. You feel a tug toward the unit similar to rising quickly in an elevator and
Assuming I could get back. There are areas and cities we can't enter and the environment did suffer a great deal of damage but we are recovering. *I* am not trying to do so. ARTIFICIAL MICROSINGULARITY = LOCALIZED KERR FIELD
I am not a computer expert. pamelaPosted by Javier Cortez on 02-20-2001 03:38 PMYou flatter your self John. Do people tend to travel much? in our 'dumbed down' society.. even the people w/the largest lack of knowledge about current events know popular things that are occuring. There is a great deal of psychological profiling and testing and one of the training missions involved choosing a time in your life (within two years) where you wish you would have done something different and then going back to convince yourself to do it. If this is about economics somehow and you hope to "buy" my story, then what do I gain by "selling" it? John,
Yes, there are probably people like that but I am not in active conversation with them. I've questioned MYSELF on whether I should even consider joining this discussion. Any books from this century? OK, here is the BIG problem. John would be grabbed by government federal agents and held incognito until a determination could be made based on national security. Roman Republic.)). Any books from this century?What brought you to this bbs in the first place?And here is another character-o-meter question I'd like you to answer: Have you seen George Lucas's Star Wars Trilogy (bonus points for any of the prequels or sequels)?Posted by Joe Norris on 02-19-2001 01:12 PMQuestion1: What happens to Bill Clinton between now and 20362: What happens to Bill Gates between now and 2036I am sure these are both headline events that will be talked about for several years to come.Posted by John Titor on 02-19-2001 01:14 PMRANDY:
What is the woman's role in your time? Your disertation on physics (at least in a small way) confirms a few things that I think are relatively accurate. The manual also is what you would expect from the military. Posted by Craig Cuthbert on 02-15-2001 08:28 AM. Is ours today good in say 2010 or 2020? No, I don't have any additional information concerning crop circles, ETs or UFOs. In addition, how does someone decide what the most popular music trend is? There will be plenty of guns around when you need them. ", Not true at allnot *anything*just a few days ago there was an attempt at Bush's life, surely that's going to be a significant historical event. If it never occurred, no body would be sent back to stop it, which would mean that the event does take place. noble ends. Of course I only speak for myself, but I think it's irrelevant and pointless to argue whether or not this man is a Time Traveler or not. I do not know what happens when we die. quantum computers
Of course the "you" there would have no memory of doing it. There are physical and technical limits to when and where I can go. Thinking about it now I sort of wonder what it would be like to be a teenager now and know the answer to that question. No interest in making money for this (so far), Continuity of statements (not 100%, but he's human). So I hereby eat my words about not posting anymore. I fear that another month or 2 may not be enough time to get as much said and discussed as I would like to have. But that's not important, what is, is your answers John.I'm still waiting. Most of us also believe that the human race does indeed learn how to travel to time sometime in the future. Do you believe that the rest of the world or the known universe exists -- choices. What is that supposed to mean?LolaPosted by Pamela Moore on 02-22-2001 03:20 AMJavier,
. It is on the other board but I was not sure if the link to the other board was still on here.Anyway it looks like a very interesting piece of machinery. . Please correct me someone if I am grossly incorrect. 26. Drive cars? Naturally, the conflict in Vietnam and the Middle East come up but as someone has already stated here, "that's old news". You stated elsewhere that they repulse a Chinese invasion -- Does this mean Australian government side with your enemy? This is the reason the unit is only accurate to about 60 years.RICK:((Specifically, you stated my questions were "rather specific" and you'd be "love to discuss physics and happy to walk through the operation (I assume of the machine)". It can also get quite hot and stuffy during the trip and you'll be subjected to a 1.5 to 2 G force the entire time. Even the very common sense 'rules' for the potential future. As for the undocumented IBM design modification in the 5100, I know nothing so I can't comment there.The new .net platform from microsoft has the capability to integrate all the languages you mentioned + all the ones I mentioned. ))Hmmm.I am forced to admit I must rethink what I know about Mobius loops.ANDREW:((1) Does the last name hubbard have any historical(is that the right term?) Even if you don't take a direct hit, dying crops and no water can ruin your day. Are they used to create the "rotating tipler cylinder" somehow through the axis of your time machine? And don't come back with the cliched, "well it wouldn't be morally right to change the future"you are morally obligated to help someone if you can stop it!! . ((John, if you really did travel through time you'd be dead. ((Do you know, or have you met John personally? Should we be stockpiling guns? They are just incomplete. You may leave a message to yourself if you wish. ((Logically though the revelation of his TT ability still makes no sense, as he could easily question people of this time and get all sorts of info without revealing himself.)). What would happen in one of these situations? I would say that affects our speech. At this point I have no concrete reason to disbelieve anything you say save for standard skepticism. Its a bit of hard book to summarize, though its central thesis is this -- History follows certain cycles. Are you afraid of altering your reality in our future or your present in the slightest? (1) Industrialized mass production does not produce the uncountable tonnage of useless consumer items so gleefully absorbed by your society. Thinking about it now I sort of wonder what it would be like to be a teenager now and know the answer to that question. no again, since a well trained person can beat a voice stress analysis by using self hypnosis or having someone hypnotize them prior to recording. are easily shot down or at least deflected. I would not ask were I not curious. For some reason it always works. What does the display show you (for instance, does it simply show things like time/date calculations, or radiation [probably wrong word] of the fields from the device? It doesn't appear that it ends that simply as the "second" time traveller says that he saw a duplicate self appear in the lab thirty seconds before he started the trip. small air pocket around the car that acts as your only O2 supply unless you
Posted by Jeret Schisler on 01-28-2001 07:40 PM, John, Can you please tell me some lotto numbers for 2036? if so, what are their thoughts on you? A Member of Skeptical Enquirer playing an early April Fool's Joke? And you didn't even answer the other questions fully. ))Perhaps you would share them with me. Napster + mailboxes etc. I calmly point out that there were wars before there were guns, and they go on about how that was a "less civilized society"Then there are the "skeptics" about UFOs, and any kind of odd, out of the ordinary occurrences (for instance, Big Foot, alien abductions, SETI etc). After he told Art that Marilyn Monore is not only alive but that she shot JFK there was a LONG silence from Art. What are the rules for fraternizing with people who aren't from your time; do you make friends easily here in 2001? Where is the safest place in the US to be. Even if you don't take a direct hit, dying crops and no water can ruin your day.My time traveling nemesis Javier (a.k.a. I am sure he will appreciate it. . Why would a TT'er reveal himself & the TT machine? Before you say yes and accept that parade in your honor down main street, perhaps you should go forward in time and see if the U.S still had the motivation to make the A-bomb before Hitler did. They would, if they could believe it, GRAB and hold time travelers -- checking the veracity of their stories and preventing them from having any interaction with anyone. I also don't know how to clarify my position any better so I would suggest that if what I say angers you, it might be best to just consider it fiction. but in general? not revel themselves? It's difficult to define the most predominant religion. If you truely did travel back through time, you'd materialize in 1970 where the Earth WILL be in 2036, which is the vacuum of space. ))Being a superpower only makes you a target. not really. (I think) correct me if I misunderstood his post.PatienceA degree of loyalty to his country, and for democracy not found every day. actually that might have been where john discovered Art's site as well. Heck, the fact that I'm here makes it different from mine. Rather I too have asked direct questions and placed challenges to all time travelers.Further, any segmented regular writing of this nature on any BBS will create natural discrepencies -- even I suspect in your own and mine to boot. I find this one the most interesting. You tell me about a new cultural fad -- for instance, let's say Czech Dance Wear, becomes chic. I think I understand why Rick was impressed as I know a bit more about Rick today than I did 2 days ago I mean his technical background.Here is my opinion.John thus far has demontrated the following:Ability to discuss physics that seems to rise (eventually) to the level of the question posed.High degree of intelligence.Has not wavered in his ethical assertions regarding (verifyable) disclosure of future events.No interest in making money for this (so far)Continuity of statements (not 100%, but he's human)Accurate cultural behaviour for a person from the world he claims to come from.Has "I believe" made more than 1 verifyable prediction. In fact, I think it's interesting that we all respond to the unknown the same way regardless of our cultural experiences. Would you believe? Deeds and Dogma just don't do it. 28:12). My only geuss is that you are not a time traveller, and don't want to say anything that could make a gullable person do something stupid. I don't understand what you mean by "race mixing".34. I don't know any other way to tell you that I am unaware of what happens in the next week, especially in Hollywood. i wasn't even born yet when she was alive -- but i know she existed? You answered them like a politician would, and that's by stepping around the truth without actually lying. Thank you. One thing the governemt needs to do is decriminelize drugs. 2) He has no time machine. 39. that got him here, many of your reasons for disbelief, particular those just mentioned by James . I only want the honest truth. By spinning these various microsingularities, a localized Kerr field is created. Have civil liberties become more significant? You will not meet yourself. If the magnetic system failed (which has numerous backups including a system that would remove it from this worldline), the singularity would evaporate. ((How long will you be here in 2001? John mentions the Big War(2015) was between the Cities of America (the enemy of John) and Russia, China, etc. I did leave it at that. (Provided you knew it). I have went back and looked up that post you mentioned. I have to agree with Ernie in some aspects. The next question is religion, if time travel is possible, what does that do to the reilgious? resulting loss of control over individual and community autonomy. Why don't you subject yourself to the same scrutiny that you subject others to. This could be a good little test. LolaPosted by Javier Cortez on 02-21-2001 11:18 AMHow am I being hostile? Please tell me your opnion why this is interesting and worth remembering for 30 years. Let's say that John is a "confused person" would it not be kinder to help him regain his senses, than to attack him. either, but I know he was telling the truth. What would happen in one of these situations? Do you think I should not interact with you for your safety or mine? 9. If so, I have around 107 years to go. So will the Millenial Kids(MKs). Within limits, I'm confident my anonymity is secure. ------------WAKE UP PEOPLE AND THINK FOR YOURSELF!!! ((So where do you stand? I will look for them. With each reply you have, the more and more I think you could be possibly telling the truth. ((Is there an active market on new books in your time, or has that infranstructure not rebuilt it self? In part 2, you share your paranormal experiences. Somehow I always see this out of liberally-biased people, when someone is being quizzed, these liberally-biased people complain of attacks when they (or their heros) can't answer questions to someone's satisfaction. Posted by Kathleen Sander on 02-05-2001 11:15 PM. Will it decay? A few lines later you state (after me saying you should know a hell of a lot more about the machines you're operating) that you do know much about it, but you're not willing to share it with everyone. I hope to return home with a better understanding of why you think and believe the way you do. Will you readily be able to identify the enemy. I listened to Dr. Anderson it was very interesting indeed. John Titor A Time Traveler's Tale, was compiled by John's mother in our time and bound in a 5.5 x 8.5 paperback protected by a laminated front and back cover. Yes, that post was where we were discussing wether the
The organization of the fighting unit I was in fell under the militia. ((1. You claim that you have no interest in proving to us that you are a time-traveller. ))They will be the ones arresting and holding prople without due process. Maybe I just believe his story because I want to (selective belief).As for the issue of security, I think Rick covered it all. . I await you.-Javier C.
((What are the rules for fraternizing with people who aren't from your time; do you make friends easily here in 2001? Would you consider that?Thanks, Nikki
show'. 2:14; Jam. I do not seek followers to mislead. I am a firm believer that faith (and good works) is not enough to get to God. All I can think of is to make something up. However, women do fight in the military just as the men do but their role on the community level is very conservative.40. I honestly think that had a major impact on the believability of his story. The account of Satan in Ezekiel 28 could well involve aspects of both these meanings. Of course, being as simple-minded as I am, I would figure that most people your age would know at least the types of musical influences that were around as they were growing up. However, rest assured, if I went to the security office and said "I have access to a time traveler" I'd get laughed at. And believe it or not, someone here has to. I've noticed that when most Americans think about Canada in this time, they think about pine trees, chooks and back-bacon. He started off ok but quickly went downhill into the Wacko Zone. Even the news I see now indicates that continued weapons deals to allies, border clashes and overpopulation will lead to hostilities. Especially when you make grandiose claims of being from the year 2036. I have drafted a letter indicating I'm interested. ((How long will it take for the loop to decay? Lucius Quintus Cincinnatus,
MSN? ((How would someone that came here with no money all of the sudden have plenty of money now? If I was just going to guess, I would say it's important to avoid the rattlesnake or you might be "walking" back to shore. of the large population our world has.. it is very small in comparison to the population of -this-board-.. & our country is full of skeptics (which i'm sure you've realized).. so even if 100 people said "the eastern shore will not be affected.. a traveler from the future -said so-!!!".. I do not want either. There is a group working on the idea of gravity displacement to get into space but the calculations and error rate are very large obstacles to overcome. (4) In six months time give Art the encryption key and he can reveal what you said. Efforts
not really. I even have permission from the government to tell anybody I want because they know there's not a snowball's chance in hell that anyone (that counts)would believe it. . The C204 unit
I have asked 6 friends that have been in the military and "whatever" the device is in the photo looks very authentic. How would you answer your own questions? Perhaps you are correct and that was a mistake. I would have to study the posts a little more carefully, though I would say that the variables used in computing projected postionings, rely heavily on detecting these known masses as opposed to trying to figure out where they would end up in space (and time). [Edited by Pamela Moore on 02-20-2001 at 08:54 AM], Posted by Rick Donaldson on 02-20-2001 08:31 AM. Maybe.Anyway. The trees are strangers, leering, disapproving in the ash of winter..my world, my life, my wandering path. I wouldn't expect John to either. Personally, I think murder is wrong. "so that's what this is all about? And the question was, "Is John Titor your real name?" ( 3 billion people dead a "good" thing? i know that 'dallas' & 'dynasty' & 'falcon crest' were big time t.v. (4) In six months time give Art the encryption key and he can reveal what you said.)). I'm very confident you are capable of killing yourselves without my intervention. (7) Does money look alot different than it does now? which is not really a personal problem w/yourself it is just how i perceive you to be. !Hmmmm I'm about to start believing this guy, John the Time Traveler is real.John, one last question, what sort of actual educational background (in your time) do you have? 43. My earlier comment referred to be choosen for this mission. 29. So far you've not mounted either.John is "playing you" Javier. The heavy EMP damage was isolated to those areas.Actually, you will probably be quite impressed with our internet. If it is not the truth for John, it is atleast an ingeniously well constructed story. Yes. When you depart this time, what is it we will see? http://www.artbell.com/topics.html (Link here)
The descriptions John provided are much more convincing than his ability to write a given equation. (John, please stop buying into it)Do you think you are going to finally find something to post that will get him to cry "Uncle!". I think the guy that called us Sheep is wrong and it is folks like HIM that completely close off education and communication. Hope you call.Posted by Jim Houlahan on 02-21-2001 06:30 PMJohn,I'm guessing the date of your return to the future is April 19th. I can tell you that I'm sure that some of the posters know more about time travel and it's why's and why nots, than they did prior to coming here.The real interesting conversation has been about the culture he describes, and the way they approach life.My comment regarding story lines is accurate. If you truly wished to do this your first line would not have been, 'I am a time-traveller'. Figures
". Is any of this a result of your expiriences with biological warfare? Asking for volunteers to go back with you to the year 2036.5. ErniePosted by Craig Cuthbert on 02-16-2001 10:48 AMI think I understand. I'm betting that (assuming this is real) the microsingularities are used to create the infinite length aspect of the tipler cylinder which appears to be required for this time function change to occur. In fact, I've tried to point out on at least two occasions that anything I do (at the request of someone else) to support my claims can be found someplace else on your worldline right now. The fourth, time, is traveling away from us as precisely the same rate as it was a few moments ago. At the time, no one would have taken you seriously anywaybut if you had of predicted that, and it happened, then even I would likely believe you now. Hydrogen is converted into propane because it's easier to handle.ROY:((I would hope that the paradise I live in would somehow be spared (the Hawaiian Islands) but I suspect it would not be spared as a strategic target for obvious reasons))My parents went to Hawaii on their Honeymoon. (Hearing in my right ear isn't as good as I would like it). Rule 3 -- Your future is not unchangeable? What do the years from 2008 to 2015 look like? I suppose I took it as if it was one of TT_0 posts. . Does anybody here remember Marc Wade from the old BBS board. Personally, I worry about that a great deal. (for you RickIn general has been a very good thread host.None of this proves he's a time traveller, but it does prove to me that I should continue to read the posts, and ask further question.As someone recently mentioned a preponderance of circumstantial evidence builds credibility.I have a question for John:John, what would it take to get you to stick around after spring and leave during the next window of opportunity?I fear that another month or 2 may not be enough time to get as much said and discussed as I would like to have.Regarding the photos. There are a lot of questions being asked that John has responded to. Specifically western Canada, should I get out and move to Fiji ? I remember distinctively you saying that you got approached for this mission right after basic training. I will not disclose any information that will cause someone to personally gain by its knowledge. Is that an accurate assumption? ((John, any chance of getting a better set of photos with more of the manual?. There's nothing like the look on someone's face when you tell them 100,000 people will be dead tomorrow. Since it would not affect my home anyway, it would be rather pointless. I left all my physics books back in the time machineand remember, just because I control your mind doesn't mean I think you're an idiot. I believe in fact this describes a plot in one or more
Actually, I don't think that's correct. (8) So then when you time travel you can never actually go back to the EXACT same place you left from? doubt and question- I do myself but I don't let it stop me from trying to learn from what he has to say. Why am I more threatening?I have no memory of meeting an older me as a three year old. I have drafted a letter indicating I'm interested. However, please understand that my intention is to just keep it real. The galaxy, and us with it, is traveling at ~ 390 km/sec. When I was thirteen I used to worry about which shotgun slug would take a door handle off and whether or not I had any dry socks. ))Yes, I am pondering posting more of the manual. I suppose I could lie and make something up but what's the point? Saying where you were born and where you live, and knowing that government officials read these post everyday.6. John wants to remain anon but posts numerous posts to this board and at least 2 others where he expounds on, among other things, the functioning and design of the TT machine. What do you think they would do? Through trial and error, and although they are quite heavy, hot and capable of putting out a great deal of energy (300 -- 500 megawatts), it's discovered that these microsingularities can be electrified and captured. Yes, John Titor is a real name. Let me explain before you misunderstand me.In our society today, we have nothing but untrusting, cynical people out there. The problem was very straightforward. Herbal medicines? These then cumulate into cultural topologies. This is inherently unfair, and you should give it some thought. Moving into other "topographical areas", you would also have to "shift gears" your "sense of timing" would be a bit off, until you either found some groove of activity that you could fall into, or until you could create new ways of "being" and acting, to handle the new circumstances. Now, in the twilight of the 21st century, this locus of capital, political influence and media control is taking on a life of its own, out of the control of even those at the top of the command heirarchy, with concommitant
It fits the exact description John has give us of his machine. It is also thought that parallel worldlines that appear to be the same end at different times. (I'll look over the past posts of course, but reiteration doesn't hurt.) The people who sign my paycheck told me why we needed a 5100 and sent me off to get one. This type of time travel is also isolated to a single worldline. You will draw a great deal of negative attention to yourself. There are biological hazards that cannot. ))The only problem is, now you have to trust the person who brings the information forward.RANDY:
I find it interesting that my credibility and the phrases that describe it hinge on economic terms and whether or not I have something to sell. ((What state do you live in now in 2001?)) ((I'm touched by your concern for my safety.)). (8) So then when you time travel you can never actually go back to the EXACT same place you left from?That is correct, in physical terms, I can never get back to the exact worldline I left from. And to everyone else here. . Or have you forgotten that?-Javier C.Posted by Craig Cuthbert on 02-21-2001 08:20 PMJavier you will obviously be one of the survivors ? Again, I am unable to make you do anything nor would I want that. Cheers all. ))Yes, radiation affected the water but that can always be distilled out. I'm just trying to formulate non-invasive ways to see if you are who you say you are. Current fallout estimates are accurate but a bit exaggerated. You've been to Cedar Key? Specifically western Canada, should I get out and move to Fiji ?Do you think it's very smart to be talking to people online? Now that I have admitted my "government participation" let me tell you MY motive. I very much want to discuss our cultures but please help me understand how you won't be able to change something I tell you happened on my worldine. Why would you expect a time traveler to know or care about what happens in Hollywood or some individual companies profits? I'm just trying to formulate non-invasive ways to see if you are who you say you are. 6:28; 9:4; Eze. and right after that
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