I suppose those two choices speak to some of the overarching themes I consciously wanted the book to cleave to.WASHINGTON SQUARE: This last comment makes me wonder about your process assembling a book. Articulating one would require thinking of others as more than free particles in a market or economic obstacles and opportunities. Dang, you hear those birds? The collections final poem, An Old Story, also feels faintly Biblical. She has also written a memoir,Ordinary Light(2015), which was a finalist for the National Book Award in nonfiction. WASHINGTON SQUARE: Im also curious, hearing about how you created the found poemsare there any poets whose work has inspired or instructed you specifically in this domain of found/collaged poetry, or poetry that incorporates historical source documents?SMITH: I have taught CD Wrights One Big Self, in both the poetry and photography formats, to my students in the past. Then I felt like the poem could finally get somewhere. Because having them suggests a sense of unearned privilege? How does Political Poem complement and converse with the books more overtly, explicitly political poems? The glossy I love you,I love you, as You flinch. Wade in the Water by Tracy K Smith is published by Penguin (8.99). I honestly really enjoyed this poem, particularly the ending clause. Curtis Fox: This is Poetry Off The Shelf from The Poetry Foundation. The poem, titled Garden of Eden begins with Smith acknowledging a profound longing for her Garden of Eden, or moreover her personal paradise. Lentils spilt a trail behind me In Black life, humor helps make the unbearable bearable. Tracy K. Smith was born in Massachusetts and raised in northern California. destroyed the lives of our Even a simple poem like The Good Life grew large, for me at least,when the image of a woman journeying for water from a village without a well arrived. Tracy K. Smith: I have, and I didnt know if I would. Curtis Fox: Its one of the curiosities of your book, that to grapple with this dawning century you go back into history with poems in the voices of the enslaved and powerless, and you also make interesting use of the Declaration of Independence. Our repeated Even going into the first trip, I was thinking okay, Im performing a service. As for imaginative play, maybe that comes from another place. The shoulders. You were appointed Poet Laureate in 2017, after Trump was inaugurated. Declaration uses erasure to repurpose Thomas Jeffersons litany of complaints against King George, evoking the slaves forced migration to this country and their experience here of unspeakable oppression. Free UK p&p sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our, In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for. I also think that over the years teaching has made me a better editor of my own work. The opening poems of Wade in the Water seem to locate the divine in the worldly, sometimes to humorous effect: God drives around in a jeep, and the Garden of Eden turns out to be a grocery store. Its actually the last poem in your book. Let us know what you think of this podcast. SMITH: I think the only way students learn how to craft their own poems is by reading and learning to pay close attention to the specific choices that other writers make. Then animals long believed gone crept down. So I had to kind of really think about it, before saying yes. WebTracy K. Smith was born in Massachusetts and raised in northern California. We were almost certain theywere. For Poetry Off The Shelf, Im Curtis Fox. I struggle a lot with interpreting metaphorical words often used by poets and underlying meanings behind small phrases. This is so brilliant, this is such a clear idea. Did that effect the way that you thought about what you were going to do as Poet Laureate? Race is one of the chief subjects of Wade in the Water, a site wherein my wish to contemplate the elusive nature of compassion gets played out. Curtis Fox: And what about the desolate luxury? Its been something I will be sad to cease doing, and I feel incredibly lucky to have been able to go out across the country at this time in particular. Curtis Fox: So please give that a read if you would. But those things came out in this poem. She joins me now from Princeton University, where she teaches creative writing. The ones / Whose wealth is a kind of filth. Lest this ecological connection seem like a stretch, know that environmental disaster haunts Wade in the Water. 4 (September 2018). I had been powerfully compelled and disturbed by a Nathaniel Rich article about chemical pollution that appeared in the New York Times Magazine in January 2016. From a handbasket filled The glossy pastries! I will say it flat-out: I do not like poetry. WebTracy K. Smith begins her poem The Good Life with a subordinate clause: Whenpeople talk (Line 1). How did you arrive at the title, and what do you hope it suggests or encapsulates for readers?While working on the book, I had the experience of attending a ring shout and feeling so deeply moved and shaken by the performance of Wade in the Water. After that evening, I suspected that Wade in the Water was going to be the title of my book. But in other events, Ive gone into almost curated spaces, like rehab facilities or churches, or we have an upcoming trip that will take us to a retirement community. Some of these events have happened in large public spaces, so its been a matter of reading and then having maybe a public Q&A or more of a back and forth afterward. Copyright 2018 by Tracy K. Smith. Its current occupant is Tracy K. Smith, who was named Poet Laureate in 2017. Youve talked a bit about Wade in the Waters genesis, but more broadly, how early on do you typically begin to sense a manuscripts overarching themes? WASHINGTON SQUARE: Speaking a few years ago with Gregory Pardlo, you mentioned that music, image, form and departure are the things Im conscious of managing in a poem. Can you say a little more about balancing these qualitiesand, perhaps, how you know when one or two of them want to predominate? The theme music for this program comes from the Claudia Quintent. I felt like my sonnet was off, I always felt like there was something I needed to fix in the last couple of lines of that poem. Why are we allowing industrialized transactional regimes that make us miserable to cook the planet alive? Everyone hunkers down alone with their stuff, just as capitalism wants it.Two vicious features of the system, which Im hardly the first to note, are its enforcement of rigid hierarchies (think about the racial pay gap, for example) and its wholesale razing of the biospheric life-support systems that allow civilization to exist in the first place. In this manner, they accumulate tools that can be put to use upon their own material. Parenting is such an intimate experience, but we have all been parented and many of us have struggled through these moments when our childrens voices trumpeting their separate identities are both miracle and monumental challenge. Meanwhile, Watershed brilliantly intermixes language from that Nathaniel Rich article with testimony by survivors of near-death experiences; was the process of choosing and assembling your found texts similar for this poem? Attention to the stranger crossing any road in any town or city; patience with the awkward encounter, the unknown intention; respect for the other whom you do not know, but with a slightest stretch of mind, imagine you do. At the end of the day, our lives arent quite the way we wish they were and it can be difficult to come to terms with that. Curtis Fox: So this poem is set in pre-Facebook times. WASHINGTON SQUARE: Across all four of your collections, many poems speak through personae. Like the couplet that led me to her work, Smiths writing seems often to spring from an empathetic impulse, animated by common human experiences and invested in the insight we can gain by watching and listening to each other. Social media, this idea that if you have a life its only useful or only real if you can demonstrate it, I feel like the beginning of that frenzy or that appetite seems to line up in my mind with that period, yeah. One of the closing lines is an eerie warning: its global. The worlds first great carbon empire, the United States, is committing suicide, but at least some people are getting richer.The books center is I Will Tell You the Truth About This, I Will Tell You All About It. This long poem, divided into sections based on different voices, consists of material Smith culled from the letters of black Civil War veterans and their wives, children, siblings, and widows, many of whom wrote to President Lincoln asking for financial assistance, in many cases pay that was owed them. Curtis Fox: The poem ends with an erasure, it ends ambiguously, taken Captive / on the high Seas / to bear as you just read, and its with a dash there at the end. Capitalism has made a nightmare world, and we can either resist its pressures or chill with our smartphones and wait for climate change to kill us.Along comes Tracy K. Smiths new book, Wade in the Water (Graywolf). WASHINGTON SQUARE: In addition to the found poems in Wade in the Water and your previous books, youve also written erasures (including an erasure of the Declaration of Independence) and translated poetry from the Chinese. In Garden of Eden, the first poem in the collection, Smith remembers shopping at a grocery store in Brooklyn that was actually called the Garden of Eden. I carried the wish to write a poem about that story with me for a year-and-a-half. Even if the question animating the poem is a serious one, that sense of being lost in the pursuit is, inevitably, a happy thingit is about finding something that can constitute a productive path through or out of the matter at hand. In the poem, Declaration , by Tracy K. Smith, the author is able to criticize a powerful document and bring to light the racial injustices in modern-day society. And maybe thats me speaking as someone in mid life, someone whos the parent of kids and has fears about the future. WASHINGTON SQUARE: Thats fascinating! It comes down to simple math.The beach belongs to none of us, regardlessof color, or money. We thought the birds were singing louder. My thirties. SMITH: I wanted to open the book by invoking a sense of the eternal, to start with a nod to that scale. Wade in the Water in particular enlists a whole chorus of voices, including historical ones resurrected almost verbatim in collages and erasures. Wade in the Water is, wonderfully, a Poet Laureates booka book that speaks for the poet herself and for us all, at a perilous moment in our history. They let you move back and forth, slowing things down or speeding them up in an attempt to get a fuller, more satisfying view. taken Captive Have your process and preoccupations changed? Perhaps stepping into that subject matter imparted a courageor simply a vocabulary and an awarenessthat hasnt vanished. And sound helped me devise the poems exit strategy as well. The couplet looped in my head for weeks, and when I finally resorted to Google, I learned it was from Smiths first collection, The Bodys Question.I borrowed her books from the library and found them full of lines like the ones that had hooked me. I'd squint into it, or close my eyes From short lyrics to erasures to sectioned, multi-form elegies, all of Smiths work feels radically alivetraversing space and time; rife with cultural and historical references (to, for example, rock music; scientific research; classic movie scenes); and always illuminating with great care the complexities of consciousness and embodiment. WebTracy K. Smith was born in Falmouth, Massachusetts, on April 16, 1972, and raised in Fairfield, California. The last lines of the poems final section point this up with staggering intensity: My full name is Dick Lewis Barnett.I am the applicant for pensionon account of having servedunder the name Lewis Smithwhich was the name I wore beforethe days of slavery were overMy correct name is Hiram Kirkland.Some persons call me Harry and others call me Henrybut neither is my correct name. I think now, of course, I feel, and many of us feel differently about that. But I also felt that, okay, this is a kind of service that I would be doing for the country. But even, it seemed to answer some of the questions that come up when we talk about this racial divide. Im really happy I stumbled upon Tracy K. Smith and I look forward to reading more of her work. At the same time, several shorter poems contain a lyric I observing a stranger (for example, Beatific and Charity). The first line introduces the readers to both the casual K Smith. All of these fruits hold positive or affectionate connotations to their names, something she likely wished for after therapy (she earlier states she typically shops here almost exclusively after therapy). Or how you can sometimes see the humor in your own dire or embarrassing situation, and how that can be both frustrating and something you file away under Things that Will Be Funny in the Future. Or, generally, have some personae in your work been more challenging to access than others?SMITH: Sometimes, as in the case ofThe United States Welcomes You,a persona is a last resort. Not unlike your previous books, this one feels cohesive even as it encompasses poems whose forms and concerns vary. If capitalist institutions erase memory and sweep everything into an eternal present of consumption, poetry is a slow art with a long memory and an expansive capacity to imagine other worlds. The first trip was to Sante Fe, New Mexico, to the Santa Fe Indian School and some neighboring pueblos, and I realized this is joy. Poet Laureate of the United States; its a high perch for an American poet to land on. I just feel that sometimes they strive more to be abstract rather than deliver a coherent message. Curtis Fox: And the poem ends ominously, as if were about to be kicked out of the Garden of Eden, not only the store but innocence in general. Wade in the Water begins with the desolate luxury of the ironically titled Garden of In a quiet way, I am editing from the moment I begin writing, pushing myself to think more rigorously and vigorously and to live up to the model of discipline and courage that I encourage my students to embrace.WASHINGTON SQUARE: Youve written four poetry collections; when you started writing, you were a student, and now youre a teachernot to mention the nations Poet Laureate. And whats really exciting is its not a matter of me teaching people about these poems, its really a matter of us listening to each others responses, questions, associations. I found two books that really had a powerful impact upon me: Voices of Emancipation: Understanding Slavery, the Civil War, and Reconstruction through the U.S. Pension Bureau Files, edited by Elizabeth A. Regosin and Donald R. Shaffer; and Families and Freedom: A Documentary History of African-American Kinship in the Civil War Era, edited by Ira Berlin and Leslie S. Rowland. Several poems in Wade in the Water were written after translating poems of hers called In the Distance and Green Trees Greet the Rainstorm.WASHINGTON SQUARE: Section III of Wade in the Water ends with a Political Poem: a vision of workers cutting grass and communicating intermittently by raising their arms. Poems are so great because they urge you to start thinking in honest and even vulnerable terms about your own life and your own experiences. That work is something I can do when I dont have any ideas for poems, and it draws me into conversation with another poetic sensibility. Over her career, she has published a memoir and four books of poetry, including Life On Mars, which won the Pulitzer Prize several years ago. It was so strange. What about you? Poet Laureate Tracy K. Smith (1972-), listen to her read it here. I see humor as one of the things that keeps us alive. Capitalism, Fisher intones, is what is left when beliefs have collapsed at the level of ritual or symbolic elaboration, and all that is left is the consumer-spectator, trudging through the ruins and the relics.Is there any alternative to the morose conviction that nothing new can ever happen (Fisher again)? Incidentally, the only other poem in the book whose title was chosen well in advance of the poems composition was Eternity. I knew that I wanted to write a poem that invoked a never-ending sense of scale. A two-time Hambidge fellow, her poems have appeared in such publications as Little Star, Prairie Schooner, december, American Life in Poetry andVerse Daily. I think we have reached a moment where we need new myths.WASHINGTON SQUARE: The titles and cover art of your two most recent collections suggest a sort of pairing: Life on Mars, with its image of the Cone Nebula, points to the cosmic, while Wade in the Water presents as more earthbound. Too late. SMITH: I think my strength is the image. In June 2017, Smith was named U.S. poet laureate. Under the intense weight of capital, this poisoned realism infects all other forms of discourse, connection, economy. Price and value, Smith reminds us, are not the same thing.In a recent lecture published by the Washington Post, she calls poetry a radically re-humanizing force, one that comes closest to bringing us into visceral proximity with the lives and plights of others. She contrasts it with the market-driven language that divides everything into a brutal war of all against all and debilitates our minds: I also, more and more, recognize its value as a remedy to the various things that have bombarded our lines of sight and our thought space, and that tamper with our ability or even our desire to listen to that deeply rooted part of ourselves. Like the letters themselves, Smiths poem is restorative. WebAnalyzes tracy k. smith's "life on mars" as an elegy as a whole with many poems pertaining to death and s struggle with the loss of her father. Below you can find the poem followed by my analysis. the Declaration of Independence erasure). Its current occupant is Tracy K. Smith, who was named Poet Laureate in 2017. And I love how Wright allows the text of her various speakers to become a kind of chorus. She earned a BA from Harvard University and an MFA in creative writing from Columbia University. She earned a BA from Harvard University and an MFA in creative writing from Columbia University. The feeling that we arent content with how things are in our lives can resonate with everyone I am sure. I spent about 2 hours going through this list of poets trying to find someone that I could just. My natural process is to try and distribute the weight of the poem across these mechanisms, but I get very excited when the poem has other plans for itself and leans more toward a rhythmic energy, or toward the rigid structure of rhyme or repetition. So, when I was working on other poems in this book that were wrestling with history, I thought, oh, Ill go back to that Jefferson poem and see if I can make it right. Her poem is an erasure poem, a form of found poetry, making it even more successful in her criticism of the original document. Tracy K. Smith: Yeah, the sense of dark possibility rose to the surface. She went on to receive her MFA from Columbia University. The same desolate luxury, She studied at Harvard University, where she joined the Dark Room Collective, a reading series for writers of color, created by Sharan Strange in 1988. 4 (September 2018), RHINO Reviews Vol. Throughout her career, she has been awarded numerous literary awards and fellowships. We took new stock of one another. Thanks for listening. The pedestrian sees himself one way hears his own music in those engines idling for him but who doesnt? Her latest book is Cast Away, from Greenwillow Books. Thanks to her late father's job as an engineer on the Hubble Space Telescope, the US poet gathers inspiration from Film awards like the Oscars often have a best-animated film category, and this is dumb. Henley, Sonja Johanson, RHINO Reviews Vol. We get collage, erasure, short lyrics, long sectioned pieces; speakers grapple with the Civil War, immigration, faith, environmental damage, motherhood, grocery shopping. My found poems behave differently, but those possibilities were somewhere in my mind as I worked. It wasnt until I found myself preoccupied with questions of love and faith that I figured out how I wanted to work with the source material of the article. But it also became a poem about reckoning with what it means to be alive in the 21st century. Its also the title of a poem in the books first section, and it reverberates in images of water throughout the collectionin the poems Watershed and The Everlasting Self, for example. This week, Retelling the American Story. Curtis Fox: I want to get you to read one more poem. On the dawning century. WASHINGTON SQUARE: In Ordinary Light you recall your first poem, written in grade school and titled Humor. These days much of your work deals with weighty topics, though youve said in other interviews that writing often feels joyful. For the Garden of Eden Would you read it for us? Can you tell us a little bit about this poem before you read it? Smith works like a novelist, curating the national tongue. I dont think the poems lay out answers to any of that, incidentally, but their manner of exploring these questions feels fruitful.WASHINGTON SQUARE: One of the most striking pieces in the book is the long poem you mentioned, I Will Tell You the Truth About This, I Will Tell You All About It. Im curious about the research that goes into a piece like thishow did you come across the source documents, and when did you realize they could constitute a poem? Similarly, Theatrical Improvisation draws on the voices of immigrants as well as those who targeted them in the months before and after the 2016 Presidential election. WebSummary Semi-Splendid by Tracy K. Smith explores an argument from two perspectives.Both perspectives come from Smith, yet one is from a nice perspective, in which the poet typically just allows her boyfriend to win the argument, and the other perspective focuses on this moment, in which she stands up for herself and begins to Tracy K. Smith: An erasure poem is almost like a You know you see those government documents that are redacted, so there are these big black lines that delete certain elements of the text, and youre left with a different path through those ideas. 4 (September 2018), Emily Jungmin Yoon, Maya Marshall, RHINO Reviews Vol. To say that shes very goodthat her poetry is not screwing aroundis to state what has become increasingly obvious over the past decade. Duende is a book that grapples with what it means to me to be an American. Life on Mars is pointed into the future as a way of reckoning with all of that, while Wade in the Water takes up history in a similar effort. On making the appointment, Dr. Hayden said: It gives me great pleasure to appoint Tracy K. Smith, a poet of searching. I chose the title Watershed even before the poem itself had been written. To capacity. But the poet respectfully appropriates them, placing each within her linguistic universe, where things like line breaks and image patterns matter, and as such the erasure is partly undone. I dreamt that I was in a hotel where there was a mural of that poem, which was by him, painted on a wall, and I was reading it aloud to somebody who was with me. In part, I think its true to say that the selves Im most committed to in that book are the ones our culture continues to make most vulnerable: women, people of color, the lonely and disenfranchised. Curtis Fox:So how did that translate into what you have done, or what you are doing as Poet Laureate? I had the same problem choosing my poet. 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