. I think you're on the right track here and I do think the Tracer 98 could potentially work for you. For length, I would think the 174 cm would perform well for you. Also, narrower skis will be a little quicker edge to edge, which really helps in moguls. I liked these skis because they are so maneuverable and forgiving. Hi Nick! Your email address will not be published. HI David! At the low end, it hooks into the titanal laminate which extends down toward the tail and becomes full-width underfoot. I'm looking for a 1-ski quiver. Hey guys, The sick days (104)float much better than the bc (100). Rather than snowplow your way down blue squares, youre able to use the shape of your skis to make parabolic or carving turns. The flex pattern and shape of the Pinnacle 95 Ti give it really good performance in soft snow. The FX 95 HP is certainly worth a second look--high-end feel for sure. It's a one-stop shop do it all ski with a fantastic overall personality. If the box is left blank, the skis and bindings will be sent separately and unmounted. Performs really well on firm snow, but is also fairly capable in soft snow. It was soft snow but not powder and definitely not hard east coast stuff either. These laminates are thinner than most, at .4mm wide, so it's not a ton of metal, but still does the trick. I plan a trip or two out west (Utah for sure) this year and possibly an excursion into New England. That said, you don't have to be a park-style skier to enjoy it, it's kind of like a Ranger 98 Ti that's more focused on soft snow performance. Have fun! I guess it comes down to how often you're truly skiing in fresh snow, and for most people, it's not all that often. I'd say you're right on the money in terms of length in those models. Two of my favorite skis from last year. What bindings do you recommend? I currently ride a set of Volkl Deacon 76, and I love the speed and turning ability of themon groomed runs and ice. Last weekend I demoed the 171 Kore 99s and had a blast -- great maneuverability in the trees, awesome pop on the groomers, no chatter at speed or in crud, and overall far better than what I'm used to. I'm a fairly big guy, 5'11" 230+ all dressed, advanced but not expert. The Bent Chetler 100 is significantly softer-flexing, and the Enforcer 100 is heavier. At 100 mm underfoot, this is the widest Maverick, containing a poplar wood core and two sheets of titanal. So I'm kind of a one off, not know what to do person. Let me know if there are some good options you might recommend. Have fun! Have fun! Maneuverable in soft snow, holds an edge on firm snow, it's a very versatile ski. Line Sick Day 104, 17/18 Graphics. The shape and construction combined give the MX 99 an exceptionally strong, precise feel. Its a quick-turning ski, though, so a fantastic choice for woods and bumps, even with the stiffnessthe lightness more than makes up for it in the maneuverability department. Any recommendations as far as length would also be appreciated. Versatility, Well-Roundedness, Everything. on occasion as that's mostly what the east has to offer. The maneuverability of the Tracer 98 in the 180 cm length would be off the charts for you, and shouldn't feel too unstable. Between the 92 and 99, the 99 has basalt in it as its damping agent, so you're getting more power out of that one. I'm willing to give up a little of that speed on the groomers for something that I can turn /float a little while in powder. After doing some research and reading through your advice to others, it seems like the the Kore 105, Salomon QST 106, K2 Pinnacle 105, and Blizzard Rustler 10 might be what I'm looking for, but I can't decide if I want a heavier or lighter ski. Ski Expert. The Rustler is a good choice as well, as it has a partial metal plate that gives you more control on the groomers. Also check out Volkl 90Eight and Nordica Enforcer 100. What would be the pros and cons of each, relative to each other and maybe more importantly relative to the Enforcer 100 (which I still will ski)? I do have a pair of lightly used K2 AMP-Rictors I would still use for cruising/carving in very firm snow conditions as the other ski. More weight means the skis will feel softer, and shorter. When solo I do like to blast through the chop and challenge my limits. For the weight, though, were impressed with the stability and energy out of the ski, as Heads use of carbon is pretty effective in generating an impressive strength to weight ratio. The Liberty Origin 96 is the second twin tip we've looked at in this comparison article. But I'm not sure I love them -- you described their feel as 'surfy' which makes sense. Because of this, we often refer to it as a skiers ski as it does require input and steering to get it to turn. They rip on the hard packed groomers but like I said I am just not in love with them. I'm in western Canada, so I ski Banff, Lake Louise, Kicking Horse. However, if you are looking for a charging ski that has no limitations, you would be very happy with either! The DPS Pagoda Piste 100 C2 has the build, shape, and profile to make it one of the most accomplished turners of this list. Nordica Enforcer 100, Fischer Ranger 102 FR, Blizzard Rustler 10. Black diamond, double black diamond, centuple black diamond, it doesnt even matter. Looking for Some Guidance? I am (6', 205 53 year old), have been skiing off an on for 45 yrs. Quality and precision mean a lot to you. What would you suggest? Built with a blend of aspen and ash in the wood core and two sheets of pre-preg carbon in the construction, these skis have an amazing blend of stiffness and light weight to appease the hardest-charging skiers out there. I skied the Pinnacle 95 in a 186 and a 191 a few seasons back and enjoyed it, but felt they were easy to overski. Kids and a new wife have re-energized me and I got back out this winter, surprised how fast it came back to me, SUPER STOKED!!! I am hoping to try a few things while I am out in big sky so I can finally and purchase something with confidence. Also, I'm thinking I should be looking at a longer ski (maybe 180cm+)? Then parabolic shapes came along. The new Bonafide is a bit different from your 2015. Hi SE, For skate skiing, poles should be a bit longer. Atomic BENT CHETLER 120 Skis 2023. The Rustler 10 is to the Bonafide as the Ranger 102 FR is to the Ranger 98 Ti. On paper it seems to be basically an Enforcer with more modern materials and thus a bit lighter and hopefully nimbler. The Blizzard Rustler 9 is also in that area, but is more like the Pinnacle than the Rossignol. SE. Because ski bindings are so precise, it's crucial to have them mounted to the BSL and not the Mondo Point. I found the Enforcer the "funnest" of the three with the best mix of performance but was looking for something with similar stability but more soft snow performance and slashy/pivotable in steep/deepish west coast powder. Last year I demo'd the Sky 7, which I really liked in the powder we got in Montana. SE. Im not a super technical skier, more freeride style. You are not scared of speed, but also want something easy to handle. I think I am understanding that I am less concerned about ripping down groomers, although fun, and more interested in a ski that will be fun and more manageable in the trees, bumps and lighter for uphill touring. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I'm looking for something that supports conditions as one finds them on the doable on a random ski week (I fly in, so I don't get to take advantage of powder days except by coincidence with my travel days) out west, with the limitation of a one-ski quiver. Murray. thanks Who it's For: An adventurous skier that wants to play around the entire mountain. If youre looking to buy a powder ski, the natural notion is to go a bit longer. Most of my skiing is on groomers 50%, glades 25% & icy chop 25%(Ontario crap weather). I'm trying to decide what ski to get next and was hoping to get some guidance from you guys. I am looking for a ski which I can use 50/50 on- and off-piste. Most intermediate skiers will be tempted to wander off trail, but may not be brave enough quite yet. Have decided to invest in 100mm ski. Keep in mind that you will have to change your style and adapt a bit and be ready for a "softer" ski flex on most freeride skis compared to a narrow waisted ski with metal in its core. Enforcer 104 the heaviest of the group but decent tail rocker and nice flex that's money for bumps and trees. SE. They're all pretty maneuverable, and if you didn't like the metallic nature of the M5, you'll probably like these more. 1 Ok_Promotion_7074 1 min. It's somewhat like the Nordica Enforcer 100 in the sense that its construction provides the stability and torsional stiffness, while the shape gives it a more maneuverable feel than lots of the skis in this comparison. He said the factory line isn't his preferred line like the 120s because Atomic wanted to appeal to a wider audience with the 100s, so they set the line to a spot that is very directional. Sidecut extending beyond the rocker is one of those things that they keep talking about that doesnt really make a lot of sense until you ski it and realize what a precise and fun-loving ski this is. So you can measure yourself, or you can just check out our handy-dandy chart below. Weve had these in over two feet of fresh snow, and frankly, they do just fine. The rule of thumb for skate poles is that they should come between your lip and your nose. A bit beefier wood used for 2020, but it's not really that noticeable. Hi Pete! These skis seem super similar, anyone tried both and have any thoughts? With a fantastic blend of flex and energy, the M-Free 99 can do it all for you at a very high level. Please keep in mind that ski boots DO NOT come in half-sizes. Ultimately, with this ZX 100, its all about the tip shape and profile, and how they combine to handle the softer snow. I took skiing lessons from a very young age (6 years or something) so I am also a technical skier. Thanks a lot I appreciate your insight. Thanks for the great reviews. Slightly narrower, I also put in a strong vote for the Fischer Ranger 99 Ti. I like to ski mostly softer snow in the trees and moguls. They're solid bindings. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. As the narrowest ski in this comparison article, you might expect the Pinnacle 95 Ti to be one of the more firm-snow-focused skis, but that's not necessarily the case. Looking for something a little lighter and more directional than the Bacons that I can have fun on on less than stellar days, improve my trad skiing skills on (lessons on Bacons is kinda counter-productive) and still practice some switch and jumps (hoping to nail 180 and maybe 360 this season). The all-new Atomic Maverick 100 Ti is a strong and powerful ski that takes over where the Vantage series of skis left off. Matt, Hi Andrew! SE, Hi Dave, Atomic Bent Chetler 100s vs. Salomon QST 99 I'm on the search for some all mountain skis to fill the void of not skiing during the summer months. Versus the other skis on your list, the QST's don't have metal in them (except underfoot for binding retention), so they're a lot better for skiers who fit your description and application. Say what you will about Stockli, theyre all about precision, even if its at the expense of pure flotation. I ski mostly Mont-Tremblant in Quebec. This boosts its soft snow performance and helps the ski float in soft snow, despite only having a 95 mm waist. The enforcer does what I ask of it in the woods, though the length can get tough in east coast trees at times, but It feels like Im trying to turn a ship when in icy bumps and almost always leads to some backseating or picking up too much speed. I have seen them not release to the correct newton meter values during torque testing, but only for really lightweight skiers. The extended tip rocker goes well with the low tail profile, creating a good blend of grip in the carve as well as playful flotation. If you're not looking to drop too much in terms of performance, I'd go Camox. SE, Your email address will not be published. I tried out the blizzard bonafides last year and loved them in comparison to my chronics. Built with Dynastars Hybrid Wood core, the skis get the Poplar in the main trunk with Polyurethane (PU) material along the sidewalls extending into the ski. More of a plower than a dancer. An SE tester favorite, there is not much this ski can't do. I own an 87 and use it pretty much every day here in Stowe. With a bit of extra length, the skis will have a more accurate flex and better weight distribution. Question, why the Ranger 99ti and not the Ranger 102FR? Those are lighter and more maneuverable than the Enforcer/Ranger, but still have high-performance ceilings. The 191 like you're saying is designed for that 1% of skiers in the 6'4" to 6'5"+ range. Arguably one of the most soft-snow oriented skis of this article. A ski gear sub for everything ski related. Ski lengths on our chart above will fall somewhere between your nose and eyebrows. (They don't seem to make it strictly in the mid-180s.) ago I own both. Because you're a fairly big guy, you can definitely justify some metal in your skis. From about the mid-body forward, the carbon nose starts as a central spine and widens to full-width in the shovel and tip. Quick answer: Stay in the mid-90 mm range, stay in the mid-180 cm length, and dedicated mogul skis are basically only designed for competitive mogul skiers who ski really direct lines. SE, Hi, For classic or touring poles, the correct size pole should reach your armpit. I don't have as much data/experience with 4Frnt, but as an owner of Enforcer 100, I can certainly speak to that. Finding your Boot Sole Length (BSL) is easy. Have fun! 6'3" 200 pound mid-40s ex-racer & instructor here. An intermediate skier may struggle with its level of power. And other skis you would recommend to look at. When hand-flexing the ski, its noticeably stiffer in the tip versus the tail, but thats not to say the tail is soft by any means. What skis do you think I should be considering? If youve looked all over and still cant find your BSL, its also acceptable to measure along the bottom of the boot from the very tip of the toe, to back of the heel- just make sure you measure in Millimeters! Ex-racers certainly appreciate the metal construction of the Nordica, and you'll learn how to make it more playful. I'd look to the mid to upper 170's for length. So ive decided to invest in some 100mm all mountain skis. That shape does lead to a shorter-than-most turn radius, and it makes the ski snappy and agilecontributing to a higher level of fun and play out there on the hill. I generally avoid groomers, when I do have to take them I'll link a few quick carving turns but I find myself generally sticking to the edges to find some softer stuff to play in. I would have a good deal on the Enforcer 100 (19/20), so not sure if the difference would be worth it. The Rustler 10 has metal underfoot that tapers towards the tip and tail of the ski, so it feels more stout underfoot, but since you don't ski terribly fast, you might not need that metal. Maybe you want to do some AT skiing too, the Tracer 98 is a good candidate for a touring binding. But you're the expert what kind of skies would you recommend me? I demoed the Salomon QST 99 in the 188 length last weekend and really enjoyed them. Skiers who prefer speed and flotation in the fresh snow. This narrower brethren is built for a bit more all-mountain skiing, but still has the long tip rocker profile of the 108, making this 100 a very smooth competitor in fresh and soft snow. I think because of my weight I shouldn't go to the 11 series. Hope that helps! It's got a great blend of materials that really give the skis a good amount of power and strength. Best Regards, HI Jesper! Im 55, 510, 195, Intermediate/Advanced. At 94 mm underfoot at 180 cm length, it's not that narrow, but it still has great edge grip, especially underfoot. I really want a ski to make my endless hours in the trees more enjoyable. Murray, Hi Murray! I've been skiing a totally different ski, Cochise, there awesome if I'm on my A game and want to rip but I'm getting older find them a bear anymore. Those were both near the top of my list, along with possibly the Kore. I am 59 ~ 175 lb and consider myself an advanced skier. I'm 40, 6'2'' and 180lbs, spent all my life on groomers. But felt they were a bit too heavy and burly for me. I think the move from the Bonafide to the Rustler makes sense. Beginner skiers are classified as people who have never ever skied, right up to those just starting to dabble in Intermediate trails. Size up for true power and strength. 28.5). I guess there are three elements to my question: How wide--should I stay with the 90 mm class or would the 100 mm class be more appropriate given that I don't do many groomers? Advanced: This might be one of the hardest groups to identify. In it, we give reviews of our favorite ski gear, provide information about the latest ski technology, discuss the latest news in the ski industry, and so much more. Also, would you consider the Soulrider 97? Thanks, On the high-performance end of the spectrum, the Blizzard Bonafide 97 hardly needs any introduction anymore. I'd say the Experience and Rustler are a bit more user-friendly while the Mantra has a leg up in terms of carving and edge grip. But I still want something so that I can be aggressive / ski off-piste crud and powder when I want. $226.06. Hey SE. Awesome. 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